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		<title>By: Norm Guiver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm Guiver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Aug 2011 22:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HI

I just recently made one of the plastic barrel hives before I saw your aricle. 

1)  I cut the bottom out and put in a mesh floor in two parts to retain the strength.
2)  I recessed 6 of the top bars and it took ten minutes to turn 6 bars from a commercial Nuc 
into Top Bars and install a colony
3) I developed a profile of top bar that is quick to make and can be primed with wax in a matter of seconds
4) After 3 weeks the girls are already building on the real (oak) top bars.

I dont know how to post pictures .. send me your e-mail address and I will e-mail them to you.

Regards

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HI</p>
<p>I just recently made one of the plastic barrel hives before I saw your aricle. </p>
<p>1)  I cut the bottom out and put in a mesh floor in two parts to retain the strength.<br />
2)  I recessed 6 of the top bars and it took ten minutes to turn 6 bars from a commercial Nuc<br />
into Top Bars and install a colony<br />
3) I developed a profile of top bar that is quick to make and can be primed with wax in a matter of seconds<br />
4) After 3 weeks the girls are already building on the real (oak) top bars.</p>
<p>I dont know how to post pictures .. send me your e-mail address and I will e-mail them to you.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Norm</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jan 2011 01:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ben,

Unfortunately 5 gallon pails are too small.  If you ask around, you can probably find a plastic drum for free or cheap.   If not, I would suggest building a Kenya top bar hive out of rough cut or scrap wood.  With a little scrounging, you can build one for no cost.  Michael Bush has a very good, simple plan on his site -&gt; http://bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm   By the way,  you don&#039;t need to use 1x12,  if you can&#039;t get them.  You can use 3 1x4, 2 1x6,  or whatever you can come up with that adds up close to 12&quot;.   There is nothing magical about the dimensions so if you have to modify them a bit for the materials you acquire, it will not be a problem.   As far as winter bees in WI,   it is probably not that much different than here in the Northeast,  but it is always best to get advice from someone a little more local.   I would suggest checking out the Beemaster Bee Forums.   It is geared towards helping beginner and hobbyist beekeepers and there are a lot helpful members.  I&#039;m sure there some from WI.   Check it out -&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://forum.beemaster.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; http://forum.beemaster.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ben,</p>
<p>Unfortunately 5 gallon pails are too small.  If you ask around, you can probably find a plastic drum for free or cheap.   If not, I would suggest building a Kenya top bar hive out of rough cut or scrap wood.  With a little scrounging, you can build one for no cost.  Michael Bush has a very good, simple plan on his site -> <a href="http://bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm" rel="nofollow">http://bushfarms.com/beestopbarhives.htm</a>   By the way,  you don&#8217;t need to use 1&#215;12,  if you can&#8217;t get them.  You can use 3 1&#215;4, 2 1&#215;6,  or whatever you can come up with that adds up close to 12&#8243;.   There is nothing magical about the dimensions so if you have to modify them a bit for the materials you acquire, it will not be a problem.   As far as winter bees in WI,   it is probably not that much different than here in the Northeast,  but it is always best to get advice from someone a little more local.   I would suggest checking out the Beemaster Bee Forums.   It is geared towards helping beginner and hobbyist beekeepers and there are a lot helpful members.  I&#8217;m sure there some from WI.   Check it out -> <a href="http://forum.beemaster.com" rel="nofollow"> </a><a href="http://forum.beemaster.com" rel="nofollow">http://forum.beemaster.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not have 55 gallon drums but I have alot of 5 gallon buckits with lids would that work or is it too small? I have never done beekeeping and was hopping to start small and use what I have to keep the cost down. Also I live in WI and how do I winter the hive? If you could send a response to my Email that would be grate thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have 55 gallon drums but I have alot of 5 gallon buckits with lids would that work or is it too small? I have never done beekeeping and was hopping to start small and use what I have to keep the cost down. Also I live in WI and how do I winter the hive? If you could send a response to my Email that would be grate thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: kurtis</title>
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		<dc:creator>kurtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2011 23:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just saw this barrel hive setup in my back woodsman magazine, and i plan to read up on it, and start mine this spring, such a unique design, and cheap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just saw this barrel hive setup in my back woodsman magazine, and i plan to read up on it, and start mine this spring, such a unique design, and cheap!</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;
Do you have any of these hives in use.
&lt;/strong&gt;
I do not.  A bear got into it and I never put bees back in it.  I got tired of feeding the 4 top bar hives I had, when the Langstroths where making surplus at the same time.  They would build just so far and get lazy.  I have heard of others who had the same problem.  I now have a couple of Warre vertical top bar hives and they seem to not have this issue.

&lt;strong&gt;
Have you had problems with absconding? 
&lt;/strong&gt;
Absconding does not seem to be an issue here in the North as it is in the South.  I can&#039;t remember ever having a hive abscond.  If I have,  it was decades ago.

&lt;strong&gt;I have heard the bees will not like the plastic.
&lt;/strong&gt;
That is usually from someone who is speculating or has had trouble with bees drawing plastic foundation.   I have never had an issue and 95% of my Langstroths are in polystyrene hives.  The barrel hive was perhaps the strongest of the TBH I had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><br />
Do you have any of these hives in use.<br />
</strong><br />
I do not.  A bear got into it and I never put bees back in it.  I got tired of feeding the 4 top bar hives I had, when the Langstroths where making surplus at the same time.  They would build just so far and get lazy.  I have heard of others who had the same problem.  I now have a couple of Warre vertical top bar hives and they seem to not have this issue.</p>
<p><strong><br />
Have you had problems with absconding?<br />
</strong><br />
Absconding does not seem to be an issue here in the North as it is in the South.  I can&#8217;t remember ever having a hive abscond.  If I have,  it was decades ago.</p>
<p><strong>I have heard the bees will not like the plastic.<br />
</strong><br />
That is usually from someone who is speculating or has had trouble with bees drawing plastic foundation.   I have never had an issue and 95% of my Langstroths are in polystyrene hives.  The barrel hive was perhaps the strongest of the TBH I had.</p>
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		<title>By: Kb3erv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kb3erv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in WV.  Do you have any of these hives in use.  Have you had problems with absconding?  I have heard the bees will not like the plastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in WV.  Do you have any of these hives in use.  Have you had problems with absconding?  I have heard the bees will not like the plastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kb3erv,

I&#039;m not sure how bright it would be inside, but I would also be worried about the heat.  You could always paint it though or put it in the shade so it doesn&#039;t get direct sun light.   I don&#039;t know your location, but absconding seems to be more of a problem in the South than up here in the North East.   Don&#039;t forget, some colonies build right out in the open on a tree branch if they can&#039;t find a better spot.   Keep us informed of what you do and how it goes.

rob...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kb3erv,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how bright it would be inside, but I would also be worried about the heat.  You could always paint it though or put it in the shade so it doesn&#8217;t get direct sun light.   I don&#8217;t know your location, but absconding seems to be more of a problem in the South than up here in the North East.   Don&#8217;t forget, some colonies build right out in the open on a tree branch if they can&#8217;t find a better spot.   Keep us informed of what you do and how it goes.</p>
<p>rob&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kb3erv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kb3erv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can get my hands on 55 gallon white barrels fairly inexpensively which had contained soda syrup.  In daylight I would think it would be very bright inside of these white barrels and bees appear to prefer hollowed out trees and seemingly dark places.  Do you think these white barrels would work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can get my hands on 55 gallon white barrels fairly inexpensively which had contained soda syrup.  In daylight I would think it would be very bright inside of these white barrels and bees appear to prefer hollowed out trees and seemingly dark places.  Do you think these white barrels would work?</p>
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		<title>By: William Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 15:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks. I will let you know how it goes. You&#039;ve been an unbelievable help. I have a friend just entering the arena with TBHs. Will let him know of this great site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks. I will let you know how it goes. You&#8217;ve been an unbelievable help. I have a friend just entering the arena with TBHs. Will let him know of this great site.</p>
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		<title>By: Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 13:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Maybe a 3/4-1? sheet of insulation between the roof and bars?&lt;/strong&gt;
I was more concerned with the sides of the sink getting hot.   The insulation on the top bars wouldn&#039;t hurt, but I&#039;m not sure it is needed.  Between the wooden top bars and the air space left by the corrugations in the metal roof,  I never had any heat issue.

&lt;strong&gt;Single 1? entrance hole enough? &lt;/strong&gt;
It is probably sufficient, but not ideal.  There will probably be some heavy congestion on nice days.   More would probably be better, but I know stainless isn&#039;t the easiest to cut either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Maybe a 3/4-1? sheet of insulation between the roof and bars?</strong><br />
I was more concerned with the sides of the sink getting hot.   The insulation on the top bars wouldn&#8217;t hurt, but I&#8217;m not sure it is needed.  Between the wooden top bars and the air space left by the corrugations in the metal roof,  I never had any heat issue.</p>
<p><strong>Single 1? entrance hole enough? </strong><br />
It is probably sufficient, but not ideal.  There will probably be some heavy congestion on nice days.   More would probably be better, but I know stainless isn&#8217;t the easiest to cut either.</p>
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